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Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 20:10:00 - [1] - Quote No, they aren't useless. IMO HML are still the most powerful BC sized weapon. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 20:35:00 - [2] - Quote Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote: They still project damage better than any other weapon system, delayed though it may be. There's also the whole selectable damage type thing, or at least on ships with a global bonus and not just kinetic. You can also use the Doppler effect to temporarily and artificially increase your DPS. Works best with bombers. -Liang Ed: Also, just because you don't get a damage bonus to a particular damage type doesn't mean it isn't the best damage option sometimes. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 20:42:00 - [3] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: No, they aren't useless. IMO HML are still the most powerful BC sized weapon. -Liang Right OK so tell us when it would be a better idea to undock in drake rather than say a Talos Generally speaking, any time you need a tank or need to project your damage beyond ~30km. Also, Large guns are not Medium guns, if you catch my drift. :) -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 20:44:00 - [4] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: Aisha's Vengence wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: No, they aren't useless. IMO HML are still the most powerful BC sized weapon. -Liang Right OK so tell us when it would be a better idea to undock in drake rather than say a Talos Generally speaking, any time you need a tank or need to project your damage beyond ~30km. Also, Large guns are not Medium guns, if you catch my drift. :) -Liang Naga is better rofl,no. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 20:47:00 - [5] - Quote Feel free to bring your Naga to Amamake and I'll illustrate for you why its not superior to a Drake. -Liang Ed: And in case you missed it, I haven't said anything about theory or EFT in this thread. Trying to throw my "numbers" back in my teeth is pretty ******* hilarious. :) Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 20:51:00 - [6] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: No, the kind of claims I am making come from actual combat... which is slightly different than nice theoretical situations where everyone orbits in nice pretty perfect circles... Two things: - Post With Your Main - Cool, come to Amamake and show me how superior your Naga is. :) -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 20:55:00 - [7] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Frankly, all this attacking someone who has to ~come to Amamake~ is a red herring to the point i'm trying to make: in actual combat these ships are ******* pathetic. Maybe if you guys would stop trying to attack my argument on the basis of ~math~ you might see why the ~math~ actually supports it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OdXx8KgnOU Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:00:00 - [8] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: No one flies the drake because it has a 'good tank'.. lol. So that leaves with you 'more versatile'. Which isn't really saying anything other than it can fit a neut. Which a Curse does much better so it doesn't really have a role there. I guess it can kill frigs good. But so can frigs, destroyers, and cruisers. Missiles are pointless. lol. feel free to think so m8 you're hurting nobody but yourself Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:07:00 - [9] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: Aisha's Vengence wrote: No one flies the drake because it has a 'good tank'.. lol. So that leaves with you 'more versatile'. Which isn't really saying anything other than it can fit a neut. Which a Curse does much better so it doesn't really have a role there. I guess it can kill frigs good. But so can frigs, destroyers, and cruisers. Missiles are pointless. lol. feel free to think so m8 you're hurting nobody but yourself Yeah, I'm an idiot because I play the game and know what I'm talking about instead of arguing useless theoretical math formulas on a forum. The more you shiptoast the more I lol, just thought you'd want to know. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:19:00 - [10] - Quote I wonder how long you can keep this up? It amuses me to know that my ranting about people being EFT warriors has gotten so deeply under people's skin. Maybe it'll mean you guys start playing the game? -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:32:00 - [11] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Should I post a fraps of me active tanking a raven, drake, and caracal with 5 neuts on me? Should I post a video of taking one damage from missiles and tackling him anyway? Should I post a video of me fitting properly to mitigate ecm? Maybe I should post a video of a Tornado instantly alphaingout an entire enemy fleet the instant it lands on the field. Or maybe I should post a video of a Talos instantly blowing 5 people out of a close range fight... Basically: No. You are wrong. I'd actually really like to see that fraps. Can you link me? -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:33:00 - [12] - Quote DaRiKavus wrote: Again apologies if I dont answer anyones post quoting me its either I dont agree with you are you are talking s**t. Wouldn't worry about it m8, the entire thread is a troll counter troll thread. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:37:00 - [13] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Jesus Christ what kind of **** do I have to talk on this forum to make you people come try to kill me like you keep saying you will? fml Where are you? I'm in Amamake. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:42:00 - [14] - Quote Goose99 wrote: Ever wondered why canes put neuts on their spare highs, as opposed to missiles. Oh right, missiles suck, and neuts are better... Naomi, you posted on the wrong alt m8 Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 21:48:00 - [15] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: Aisha's Vengence wrote: Jesus Christ what kind of **** do I have to talk on this forum to make you people come try to kill me like you keep saying you will? fml Where are you? I'm in Amamake. Where are YOU? I'm in EC-P8R. Your sec status tells me that its much closer for you to come to me than for me to come to you. We might be able to arrange to meet somewhere in between if you're really wanting a rumble. :) -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 22:06:00 - [16] - Quote Jesus Rambo wrote: Aisha's Vengence wrote: No one flies the drake because it has a 'good tank'.. lol. So that leaves with you 'more versatile'. Which isn't really saying anything other than it can fit a neut. Which a Curse does much better so it doesn't really have a role there. I guess it can kill frigs good. But so can frigs, destroyers, and cruisers. Missiles are pointless. I.... you.... what? There's been some threads floating around where certain people have made some semi-silly comments. I think that one was made by Czyllik or some such. He's basically just taking a bunch of recent posts, modifying them to a greater or lesser degree, and posting them here. All things considered, I find this thread ******* hilarious. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 22:41:00 - [17] - Quote Jesus Rambo wrote: I've read them, and I ******* hate it. I can't tell which are the serious ones and which are the troll copies now D: 10/10 though, ships and modules suddenly got interesting beyond the usual daily "HOW I FIT DRAEK" threads. Yeah, well it seems that we have thoroughly explored the idea of how to optimally fit a Drake under ideal EFT situations. The question of how to optimally fit a Drake (or any other ship) in game might need a bit of refining though. People spend entirely too much time worshiping EFT numbers and not enough understanding when they may or may not be appropriate (or even correct). -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 581	Posted - 2012.01.15 22:41:00 - [18] - Quote Aisha's Vengence wrote: Cyzlaki wrote: Who is this moron. Don't hate me cuz you aint me. glass houses lol, <3 Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 585	Posted - 2012.01.16 00:00:00 - [19] - Quote Jesus Rambo wrote: DarkAegix wrote: Say what? Missiles will always be useful for exclusive missile ships like the Drake, and a very nice auxiliary damage source for ships like the Cyclone, Cane and Rifter. Come to Amamake. PLEASE! Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 587	Posted - 2012.01.16 02:18:00 - [20] - Quote Roosterton wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: 20 Lachesis 8763 I'm sorry, but did a Gallente ship just make the top 20? I noticed that too... but then I've been looking at the Lachesis pretty hard myself lately. We've got a new fleet doctrine I've been cooking up for late night Amamaketown and a Lach would just make it dandy. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 587	Posted - 2012.01.16 02:39:00 - [21] - Quote Goose99 wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: Roosterton wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: 20 Lachesis 8763 I'm sorry, but did a Gallente ship just make the top 20? I noticed that too... but then I've been looking at the Lachesis pretty hard myself lately. We've got a new fleet doctrine I've been cooking up for late night Amamaketown and a Lach would just make it dandy. -Liang When you put a long point on every ship going through a gatecamp, you get on a lot of kms. You don't really need a super long point for that. Also, that would imply that there are lots of Lachs and lots of people dying in onesies and twosies to gatecamps... just doesn't add up tbh. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Nation 596	Posted - 2012.01.17 18:51:00 - [22] - Quote vorneus wrote: Man it must be a full time job for Liang to post on these forums. I think there's a team of you :) Anyway, I read pages 1-3 and lolled, then I couldn't be bothered to go any further so I read the CSM meeting notes and thought I'd quote this part of it just for the reactions: Quote: CCP and the CSM discussed the new Tier 3 battlecruisers. CCP noted that the Talos needs adjustment upwards; the CSM noted that the Naga is too powerful compared to the Talos. CCP acknowledged this, citing the difficulty of finding a role for blasters as well as the power of passive shield tanking. -Ed Oh god that's ******* hilarious. I'm gonna have to read that myself because... lol -Liang Ed: I recommend that they make it more agile and faster. It really needs that because its too hard for the Talos to get into range of its enemies. :) Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren

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